Hmong Marriage: Is My Future Mine to Command?

Hmong Marriage: Is My Future Mine to Command?

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I was on the phone, talking to my girlfriend Sheng. She was sharing her dreams of the future with me, about marriage. Sheng was talking about us having kids and how cute they will be. I teased her, “They won’t. I won’t be with you later on.” She sighed and said I was being mean. I laughed. Still, in my mind, I could only see dark clouds.

Sheng and I are young. I’m only sixteen years old, but I’ve been thinking lately about marriage. Some people might say, well marriage is just marriage and it won’t be that hard to do, but I’m Hmong, and that creates many challenges for me.

First being Hmong means that getting married requires a lot more preparation and a lot of money. Hmong traditions are complicated and I still don’t understand everything, especially the bride price. It’s what the groom pays the wife’s family, more of a gift to thank them for raising the wife. Identifying an amount requires negotiations from both families, and it can range between five and ten thousand dollars. The price can also depend on the wife’s educational level and whether or not she was an obedient daughter, which can bring the price up. The good thing is that when paying a bride price, the groom’s family can ask extended family to help pitch in. Or most Hmong guys just save up their own money.

If I plan to get married right now, it would be difficult to get the money for the bride price because I simply don’t have it. I have too much pride to borrow from family so I will probably just work hard and save my money.

I believe these marriage traditions and values exist because back then, in the old country, this was how they did it. I hope these values don’t disappear, no matter how disapproving I feel, because it’s still a part of who I am. But I don’t think the younger generation will continue the traditions because they are so complicated. Many of them can hardly speak the language. It will be hard to uphold these traditions, and that goes for me as well.

Second, getting married depends on the approval of the elders. In the community, a lot of elders know each other. Even if you are not related to each other, people still know each other.

If your family has a good reputation, then your family has to live up to that name and the sons in the family have to find wives who also have good family reputations. To uphold a good reputation, the children have to be educated and know the traditional cultural practices, such as how to do ceremonies, how to speak Hmong, and not be lazy.

But if you or your family is on a black list, it can be difficult for you to date a girl from a good family.

I know other cultures may have these same rules too, but it seems like they are so much more emphasized in the Hmong community.

If your parents did something wrong, you would have to prove to others that you won’t turn out the same way. Many Hmong elders judge you by how your parents behave. The same goes in the reverse. If you did something wrong, like committing crimes or doing drugs, your parents would be at fault and they would be viewed as bad people because they didn’t raise you right. That means you can ruin your family name.

When it comes to dating, a lot of Hmong parents have similar questions, “Do you really think she is pretty? Look at her hair, it’s like she is a gangster,” Or “Look at the way he is dressed,” or “Who are her parents?” There are plenty of things they will say and many of them are ridiculous. These comments are usually followed by, “No, you cannot date that person!”

Since a lot of parents and elders know one another, they can ask around and find out quickly about a person’s family background, and then they decide whether you can date that person or not.

One of the funniest reasons I’ve ever heard for not dating someone was a story I heard from a friend. This one boy asked his dad if he could date this girl. The dad asked for her parents’ names. Then, when he found out their name, the boy’s father said, “No way! Long ago [back in our homeland], their great-grandfather snuck into your great-grandfather’s farm and stole many of his chickens and his prized cow. They are very bad people!”

I think my family has a decent reputation. We don’t have a lot of family issues with others and we keep to ourselves. We don’t put ourselves out there to get a bad name. I remember we only had one major problem with another family but we resolved that problem with a marriage between my sister and one of their sons.

It wasn’t a forced marriage because they fell in love. It did create controversy at first because my dad hated their family, but my sister and the guy were in love. My parents did not want to interfere and so they allowed the marriage. They are loving parents, but they are strict.

I’m not so sure about my own situation. I’ve been with Sheng for about two years. We have our good times and our bad, but no matter what, we’re always there for each other. It hurts me to think that things might not work out for us in the future, even though right now, we have a pretty serious relationship. Sheng wants to get married some day. I feel very uncertain. I’m afraid I won’t be able to marry her because of strict family rules and of course money.

Plus, I don’t know what my father will think, if he will allow it.

I feel like my father’s opinion always has ruled over my own happiness. He will decide if I can get married or not. I am the youngest son in the family, which means I also bear the cultural responsibility of taking care of my parents, as they get older. I want to be happy, but I want them to be happy as well.

Sometimes I feel like I should just run away but I don’t want my parents to feel like I’ve run out on them. Also, I want my Hmong culture to be preserved in America. I won’t give it up, even if there are some things that frustrate me. But in the end, I know I will have to make some hard decisions and some tough sacrifices in order to be with Sheng.

 

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Anonymous

Posted Jul 15 2010

whoa i see wat u mean man i got same prob..parents say no caz im white she green...why hating.....sighs parents

Anonymous

Posted Jul 18 2010

I am a hmong woman raised in a very traditional family. When I get marry, no one will have the option of buying me! There's no price on love, and if my family thinks they're receiving 5000 from my husband. They can think again. We're in America where an established marriage means coming together. I did four years of college, with thirty thousand dollars to pay back, and my husband is willing to help with that. We're not going to go broke before our life together even starts. If the hmong people wants to continue this tradition they need to go back to the old country. Many young hmong men and women born and raised in America will up rise against this, it's only a matter of time. You just don't understand, they are not paying the women's family for thanking them. We're being bought like pigs, husbands will think they have the rights to control us, beat us because we're their property! Haven't you read the news lately? Hmong families are getting so tempted by that money, they are selling their young daughters to older men! Those girls ages between 10-15 won't understand anything, just the fact of pleasing their family.

Anonymous

Posted Aug 3 2010

You are a very insightful Hmong gentleman. You will gain more power and respect when you have more education. Then you will have a lot more say in deciding the kind of girl you will marry. Good luck.

Anonymous

Posted Sep 29 2010

I have been dating a hmong man x4months and he is married and has been for 18yrs but loves me and his wife and wants 2 marry me and keep his wife I told him he has 2 choose and this is America I can't move in with his family ???

Anonymous

Posted Nov 26 2010

I totally understand the women who had posted her comment on Jul 18. The purpose of paying the money to the woman's family does not mean that they treating the girls like animals. The purpose of the money being given is to show appreciation of the hard work and dedication the woman's family has done for the woman as she is maturing. Many of the Hmong people has mistreated the purpose.

Anonymous

Posted Nov 26 2010

I totally understand the women who had posted her comment on Jul 18. The purpose of paying the money to the woman's family does not mean that they treating the girls like animals. The purpose of the money being given is to show appreciation of the hard work and dedication the woman's family has done for the woman as she is maturing. Many of the Hmong people has mistreated the purpose.

Anonymous

Posted Nov 26 2010

I totally understand the women who had posted her comment on Jul 18. The purpose of paying the money to the woman's family does not mean that they treating the girls like animals. The purpose of the money being given is to show appreciation of the hard work and dedication the woman's family has done for the woman as she is maturing. Many of the Hmong people has mistreated the purpose.

Anonymous

Posted Jan 18 2011

Fuck the tradition

Anonymous

Posted Mar 3 2011

im hmong and im 32 yrs old now. ive grew up around hmong tradition ever since i was a kid. all i can say is that this whole tradition things is all about, greed. ever since i was a kid, i nvr really understand it and just agrees cause , that's what the elders say. but now that im grown and can think for myself, greed is all i can think of. some say it's self worth. but i say if you're a hmong gal and is depending on how much your hubby is willing payn for you to know how much you're worth, then you're an idiot!!! some even said what the nov 26 post said (The purpose of the money being given is to show appreciation of the hard work and dedication the woman's family has done for the woman as she is maturing). i think that's a bunch of excuses. if you believe in that then you're also and idiot. it's all about selling your kid for money. back in the old days hmong live very poorly. and that's was a way of making money. no one ever talks about it. people always seems to brush it away. but that's what it is. plain and simple. a sell is a sell, a buy is a buy. we dont need a rocket scientist to figure that out..

Anonymous

Posted Mar 3 2011

im hmong and im 32 yrs old now. ive grew up around hmong tradition ever since i was a kid. all i can say is that this whole tradition things is all about, greed. ever since i was a kid, i nvr really understand it and just agrees cause , that's what the elders say. but now that im grown and can think for myself, greed is all i can think of. some say it's self worth. but i say if you're a hmong gal and is depending on how much your hubby is willing payn for you to know how much you're worth, then you're an idiot!!! some even said what the nov 26 post said (The purpose of the money being given is to show appreciation of the hard work and dedication the woman's family has done for the woman as she is maturing). i think that's a bunch of excuses. if you believe in that then you're also and idiot. it's all about selling your kid for money. back in the old days hmong live very poorly. and that's was a way of making money. no one ever talks about it. people always seems to brush it away. but that's what it is. plain and simple. a sell is a sell, a buy is a buy. we dont need a rocket scientist to figure that out..

Anonymous

Posted Jul 23 2012

If Hmong parents wanted to keep the old traditions alive then they shouldn't have come to America. Now there are many other influences in the lives of the Hmong children born here. I doubt that the traditions are even accurate anymore. There are so many version of there traditions. Hmong Christians have different rules from the original Hmong traditions. Things like not bringing an umbrella to the girlfriend's house when going to nagotiate a price and the highest amount stopping at $5000. I in a similar situation: do I live for my family's reputation and be unhappy or do I make my own choices and be happy? If your looking at reputation then a lot of the families already failed. Their kids are losers which accordin to the rules makes the parents losers too. Those aren't my rules but if they want to live like that I don't care. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions. This is just my opinion. If my decisions are so bad in the eyes of other Hmong people that they can't treat me with respect then that's their problem. I'll laugh at their narrow mindedness and continue on my way. They must have nothing better to do then to talk about my life. I just hope that one day my own family can respect my choices.

Anonymous

Posted Jul 23 2012

If Hmong parents wanted to keep the old traditions alive then they shouldn't have come to America. Now there are many other influences in the lives of the Hmong children born here. I doubt that the traditions are even accurate anymore. There are so many version of there traditions. Hmong Christians have different rules from the original Hmong traditions. Things like not bringing an umbrella to the girlfriend's house when going to nagotiate a price and the highest amount stopping at $5000. I in a similar situation: do I live for my family's reputation and be unhappy or do I make my own choices and be happy? If your looking at reputation then a lot of the families already failed. Their kids are losers which accordin to the rules makes the parents losers too. Those aren't my rules but if they want to live like that I don't care. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions. This is just my opinion. If my decisions are so bad in the eyes of other Hmong people that they can't treat me with respect then that's their problem. I'll laugh at their narrow mindedness and continue on my way. They must have nothing better to do then to talk about my life. I just hope that one day my own family can respect my choices.

Anonymous

Posted Jul 30 2012

yeah, honestly. I think that no matter what you do, just know that there going to be disappointed. No matter how much of a struggle it is, you should know that its okay to have one thing in life thats all about you :) & if she is the one, go for it :] sigh* Yet, I do understand your situation.

Anonymous

Posted Aug 20 2012

There are more important things in the world to stress over than complaince to an out dated culture. This culture only creates one thing as you stated above. People only remember the bad stuff. Sorry to break the news to you, but in the end someone looses and for that family hate is generated. The winners might have won but agian they only feel hate because they will say they had to fight hard to win against "bad people". So all that came out of following hmong culture is HATE and MISERY. YES, the new generation will eventually toss all the culture crap because of this. Why would any civilized person want to continue with it. I just hope I live long enough to see it happen. If I see it in my life time, as I am much older than you, it will be my Hmong Independence Day. I would have to say that might be the single greatest achievment for hmong people.

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